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Z'ko Doomheim Likes received: 11 | Now, tell me, how in hell you are converting, manufacturing, hauling and so on, and blitzing at the same time? If you do not do that activity at the same time than you are blitzing, then you must add that extra time into your time wich will reduce your totally bs ISK / hour numbers. Make a youtube video of it. Show us how you blitz gazillion missions, and at the same time collect all the crap, haul it, buy all the crap from Jita, cash out all the crap back in agents station, then haul all the crap to be sold in Jita. Now if you are using hauler alt, then you must add one to your divisor, if you use trade alt, then you must add another to the divisor... If you first do the missions with one character. Then use another to salvage and loot. Then use third for hauling. Then you have three pilots, and you must divide your ISK/hour by three. Also, you must start your clock from the point where you start missioning, and stop it when you have sold your crap in Jita. And never stop the clock before that. Then you would get your actual ISK/hour number. This 'code' bs propaganda is really getting annoying. |
Lan Wang Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation Likes received: 4,111 | spai Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel Calm down miner.As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff theywould not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou* |
Anize Oramara WarpTooZero Likes received: 885 | It's pretty straight forward. Go post in the market subforum that you're looking to sell LP items, specifically SOE. You should get a few people PM or mailing you that they'd buy as many of X (Stratios BPC, probe launchers etc.) as you can make. Best part is they'll come pick it up at your mission hub. I believe you should be able to get a decent bit over 1600isk/LP, perhaps even more depending with zero effort or risk on your part. incidentally I do have a 3h video of me running missions but sadly I do not have even remotely enough bandwidth or upload speed to upload it. Yey for living in a 3rd world country. Still my own 200m/h+ numbers are based off of 1679isk/LP and the thread about it if you want to know more is here: Also check out the link in my sig if you want to know more. A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3 |
Donnachadh United Allegiance of Undesirables Likes received: 1,313 | Z'ko wrote: Make a youtube video of it. Show us how you blitz gazillion missions, and at the same time collect all the crap, haul it, buy all the crap from Jita, cash out all the crap back in agents station, then haul all the crap to be sold in Jita. Mission blitzers do not collect loot / salvage unless it is specifically required for mission completion. To me what is lost in these claims is the basic idea that EvE is about having friends and doing things in space together as a group to have fun. Oh well I guess if flying solo and concentrating on ISK is your idea of fun then so be it. |
Anize Oramara WarpTooZero Likes received: 885 | Donnachadh wrote: To me what is lost in these claims is the basic idea that EvE is about having friends and doing things in space together as a group to have fun. Oh well I guess if flying solo and concentrating on ISK is your idea of fun then so be it. I understand that some people think that way but it's oversimplifying what some people do or get out of this. For myself making an impact on the universe around my character is a large part of why I do this. There is also the fringe benefit of helping other people spend less time having to deal with ISK making and more time with playing the game however they want, be it collecting shinies, pimping out their rides, owning all the ships or funding various PvP endeavors. Wouldn't you rather people spend only 1h to fund their 4h of PvP than having to spend 4h to fund 1h of PvP? Also when people say my guide or posts are great it strokes my ego big time A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3 |
Z'ko Doomheim Likes received: 11 | You do realise that you have to be at station, when cashing out LP? |
Anize Oramara WarpTooZero Likes received: 885 | Z'ko wrote: You do realise that you have to be at station, when cashing out LP? What!? No one told me that! You mean the same station that I get my missions from, the same one I have to dock at after every mission? That station? Lols aside, do you mean at station as in at my pc? You do realize it takes all of 1 minute to cash out LP and put up a contract right? A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3 |
Z'ko Doomheim Likes received: 11 | Anize Oramara wrote: Z'ko wrote: You do realise that you have to be at station, when cashing out LP? What!? No one told me that! You mean the same station that I get my missions from, the same one I have to dock at after every mission? That station? Lols aside, do you mean at station as in at my pc? You do realize it takes all of 1 minute to cash out LP and put up a contract right? How long it takes for you to find a customer? How long it will take to sell your crap, if you don't have one? And if you are selling your LP via items that require ONLY isk, then you will have the lowest ISK/LP available, because that's what everyone and their mothers do! You need the tags and crap to get high value LP store items. You don't get them if you don't buy them or loot them. |
Anize Oramara WarpTooZero Likes received: 885 | Z'ko wrote: Anize Oramara wrote: Z'ko wrote: You do realise that you have to be at station, when cashing out LP? What!? No one told me that! You mean the same station that I get my missions from, the same one I have to dock at after every mission? That station? Lols aside, do you mean at station as in at my pc? You do realize it takes all of 1 minute to cash out LP and put up a contract right? How long it takes for you to find a customer? How long it will take to sell your crap, if you don't have one? And if you are selling your LP via items that require ONLY isk, then you will have the lowest ISK/LP available, because that's what everyone and their mothers do! You need the tags and crap to get high value LP store items. You don't get them if you don't buy them or loot them. 1. SOE LP items don't require tags A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3 |
Estella Osoka Cranky Bitches Who PMS Likes received: 1,148 | Haters gonna hate. Trolls gonna troll. |
Sheeth Athonille Rabid Dogz Mining Likes received: 155 | Z'ko wrote: How long it takes for you to find a customer? How long it will take to sell your crap, if you don't have one? And if you are selling your LP via items that require ONLY isk, then you will have the lowest ISK/LP available, because that's what everyone and their mothers do! You need the tags and crap to get high value LP store items. You don't get them if you don't buy them or loot them. You know you can multitask right? It doesn't take a whole lot to post that you have x amount of SOE LP for sale. You can do that when you're warping to and from missions. As Anize said, SOE missions don't require tags. In my own experience, when someone is buying LP, they will bring the items themselves and trade them with you for the items, so you do not have to source them yourself. None of this stuff takes much time. I have a feeling you thought they looted and salvaged every mission, which was why you thought they couldn't be making that kind of isk/hr. Once you found out they did, you didn't want to change your opinion, so you tried to harp on other things. Turns out the things you're trying to harp on are teeny tiny amounts of time and your arguments hold no weight against them. *Disclaimer: I do not run missions anymore, though I occasionally do run incursions and have LP to sell from that. Other than that, I have no stock in isk/hr from missions. |
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d Likes received: 6,149 | This has to be the largest troll thread I've happened upon in this forum. I'm not going to count the 10 minutes it takes me to convert LP into items and travel 3-4 jumps to a major trade hub to list them (it's literally that painless). And that's with 3 characters (about 5 minutes with 1). Do I also include the time it takes to sell said items because I'm not necessarily going to fire sale them for 1000 ISK/LP? I make 200m ISK/hour when I'm focused on the task at hand. The ISK/hour level directly corresponds to the degree of bullsh*t I engage in on these and the Reddit forums, as well as domestic interruptions from my better half and offspring. This is further affected by socket disconnects, the reliability of my Internet carrier and the stability of the electrical grid. I even think the average speed of a swallow laden with a coconut comes into play... I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Z'ko Doomheim Likes received: 11 | Arthur Aihaken wrote: This has to be the largest troll thread I've happened upon in this forum. I'm not going to count the 10 minutes it takes me to convert LP into items and travel 3-4 jumps to a major trade hub to list them (it's literally that painless). And that's with 3 characters (about 5 minutes with 1). Do I also include the time it takes to sell said items because I'm not necessarily going to fire sale them for 1000 ISK/LP? I make 200m ISK/hour when I'm focused on the task at hand. The ISK/hour level directly corresponds to the degree of bullsh*t I engage in on these and the Reddit forums, as well as domestic interruptions from my better half and offspring. This is further affected by socket disconnects, the reliability of my Internet carrier and the stability of the electrical grid. I even think the average speed of a swallow laden with a coconut comes into play... If you claim to make 200 million per hour while actually you spend 70 minutes, then you actually make less than 200 million per hour. Do you handle elementary calculus? Oh you have three characters? Then divide 200 million by three. |
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d Likes received: 6,149 | #14 -2015-11-16 21:54:37 UTC|Edited by: Arthur Aihaken I was taught at an early age not to feed the wildlife, because then they come to expect it... It's 200m ISK/hour. I don't need to divide it by the number of characters, because it's a moot point. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Sheeth Athonille Rabid Dogz Mining Likes received: 155 | African or European swallow? Z'ko, have you ever ran missions before? You don't cash out the LP every hour on the hour. In my experience, people usually do it weekly. And the 10 minutes weekly is negligible. And you only divide it by three if it takes you three characters actively running missions to get those numbers. If you only have one logged on at a time, then you don't divide by three. If you have 2 doing other things, you don't divide by three. If you have all three in the mission pocket with you, then you divide by three. Are you starting to get my drift here? I don't know if you truly are trolling or if you're just thick, but these numbers are averages. No, people don't religiously make 200 mil/hr. They occasionally make more, occasionally make less. Often times people make less because they aren't completely focused. 200 mil/hr can be reliably attained (as an average over a longer time period) if you are wiling to put in the work. |
Arean Proktor Chilli Joe Likes received: 21 | Hadt 3 characters in apanake doing missions regularly achieving 300mio wealth/h. Need to stay focused an cherrypick. Need machariels paladins and golems. Only did team burners sometimes when they were less then 4j out. So it is possibe... |
Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic Likes received: 1,926 | Sheeth Athonille wrote: African or European swallow? Z'ko, have you ever ran missions before? You don't cash out the LP every hour on the hour. In my experience, people usually do it weekly. And the 10 minutes weekly is negligible. And you only divide it by three if it takes you three characters actively running missions to get those numbers. If you only have one logged on at a time, then you don't divide by three. If you have 2 doing other things, you don't divide by three. If you have all three in the mission pocket with you, then you divide by three. Are you starting to get my drift here? I don't know if you truly are trolling or if you're just thick, but these numbers are averages. No, people don't religiously make 200 mil/hr. They occasionally make more, occasionally make less. Often times people make less because they aren't completely focused. 200 mil/hr can be reliably attained (as an average over a longer time period) if you are wiling to put in the work. Yeah basically noone who is after ISK loots and salvages (unless they are running faction missions and collecting tags) its LP all the way down and if you are blitzing for LP you are not ISK poor so you are not running around trying to cash it in every mission you go weeks between cashing it in. At one stage i had almost a miilion SOE LP stacked up. Generally you get to know the markets. For example the best SOE items to sell tend to be the two probe launchers and the best prices for them are usually at Amarr. Though generally you are better off taking a lower LP price rather than wasting half an hour trying to get your LP at 1.9 instead of 1.6 . |
Chainsaw Plankton FaDoyToy Likes received: 3,263 | Hasikan Miallok wrote: At one stage i had almost a miilion SOE LP stacked up I try to hold at least a million lp... OH noes! I didn't immediately cash out on it my isk/hour went down @ChainsawPlankto on twitter |
Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic Likes received: 1,926 | Chainsaw Plankton wrote: Hasikan Miallok wrote: At one stage i had almost a miilion SOE LP stacked up I try to hold at least a million lp... OH noes! I didn't immediately cash out on it my isk/hour went down Plus you if you get really bored and have a spare mill you can build a Nestor and park it at a school and see who shoots at it. |
Chainsaw Plankton FaDoyToy Likes received: 3,263 | Hasikan Miallok wrote: Chainsaw Plankton wrote: Hasikan Miallok wrote: At one stage i had almost a miilion SOE LP stacked up I try to hold at least a million lp... OH noes! I didn't immediately cash out on it my isk/hour went down Plus you if you get really bored and have a spare mill you can build a Nestor and park it at a school and see who shoots at it. don't give me ideas oops isk/hour went down again @ChainsawPlankto on twitter |
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